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The programme will involve upgrading Warrior vehicles. It would not therefore be appropriate to comment further at this time. All decisions are subject to the ongoing Integrated Review. Members highlighted delays to the Programme and cost overruns.

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They also asked about the in-service date for the upgraded vehicles. I would like to provide further information on each of these areas, which the Committee may find useful. As context, it is important to recognise that WCSP is a development programme. Development programmes by their nature are intended to design and test new capabilities, to consider if the product will deliver the capability requirements defined by the MoD. They are undertaken before a production contract can be let. Lockheed Martin has met its contracted dates and commitments since that contract amendment.

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Secondly, on cost overruns. The WCSP development phase contract is a firm price programme. Lockheed Martin funds schedule and cost impacts, where these are not the responsibility of the MoD. It would be interesting to know if BAe had won the contract, if they would have had the same issues? If Challenger gets the chop, or more likely a political fudge, consisting of a pared down upgrade on a reduced fleet and chopped all together inthen I suspect Warrior upgrade cancellation and phase out in the same timeframe. The growing resistance within the military establishment to eliminating MBT capability altogether, will probably result in a Casess of hand click to see here, move along now approach by the MOD bean counters in my opinion.

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If MoD cancelled WCSP and CR2 LEP or pared it back, we would be of course unable to conduct significant armoured warfare against peer or near-peer oponents; even if the Boxer and Ajax programmes rolled out fully and on time and on budget, they would not be able to fight in an environment dominated by large numbers of enemy MBTs. Truly it would be a sad day for the nation that invented the tank. Possible not oof BAe had already link that the the current turret was not able to be reconfigured for the upgrade and a new turret was required during their upgrade proposal, hence they lost the contract based on price.

According to Janes, the 35mm autocannon is being moved forward so that more space is available in the turret. Recoil is c. CV90 upgraded version already was designed, Americans had similar troubles developing CTA weapon and gave up after 30 years and over million dollars. For squeezed defence Minni this weapon was folly! So LMUK are claiming. I think it did pass its last set of trials so I assume that means it worked as required. It was the main reason for the enormous delay, primarily the ammunition loading system that LM decided to develop themselves rather than use the one already tested and certified by CTA. How they won the contract in the first place is beyond me.

The government should have cancelled the project years ago and not paid LM a penny for their screw up. The same goes for Ajax to be honest. Totally lost the plot?

This rings of the Nimrod debacle a project that took so long it was inevitable that the Shstainment would fall. I would suggest that an immediate hold be placed on this project, and additional appropriate Boxers are ordered instead. The Warrior could remain in service in its current form, and also create a strategic reserve fleet to replace FV? Good point — the integrated Sustainment of The Mini Cases of the should be an opportunity to stop and take a step back and think more clearly. Sadly those in charge will just throw good money after bad because that is politically easy internal Army and ego politics more than Party based and carry on until it does all get cancelled. Min good money after bad a bit like the Nimrod debacle. Is the strategy I use the word loosely to procure wheeled vehicles to carry troops in the strike brigades and at the same time retain Warrior as a tracked carrier to work with Challenger and Ajx in the armoured brigades???

Yes, almost right. The Ajax is also going to the Strike Brigades!]