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Danny O'Brien: Welcome to How to Fix the Internet with the Electronic Frontier Foundation, a podcast that explores some of the biggest problems with face online right now. Problems whose source and solution is often buried in the obscure twists of technological development, societal change, and subtle details of Internet law.

Welcome to How to Fix the Internet, a podcast that explores some of the more pressing problems facing the net today and then solves them. You're welcome, Internet.

Cindy Cohn: It's easy to see everything that's wrong with the Internet and the policies that govern it. It's a lot harder to start naming the solutions to those problems, and even harder sometimes to imagine what the world would look like if we got it right. But frankly, that's the most important thing. We can only build a better Internet if we can envision it. Danny O'Brien: So with an ambitious name like 'How to Fix the Internet', you might think we're going to tackle just about everything.

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But we're not, and we're doing that on purpose. Instead, we've chosen to go deep on just a few specific issues in this podcast. But other times, we don't. And like all complex things, the right answer might be a mix of different Jugnle or there may be many solutions that could work or many roads to get us there. There is also some bad ideas some times and we have to watch for the blow back from those.

But what Te hope to create here is a place where experts can both tell us what's wrong, but give us hope in their view of what it's going to look like if we get it right. Danny O'Brien: I do feel that some parts of the digital world are a little bit more obviously broken than others. Mass surveillance seems like one of those really blatant flaws at EFF we've spent years fighting pervasive US government surveillance online Surveillance and Freedom The Concrete Jungle and our biggest fights have been in what seem to us the most obvious place to fight it, which is in the public US courts. But there is one court where our lawyers will likely never get a chance to stand up and argue their case. Even though it's got surveillance in its name.

The judges who sit on this court are hand picked by the chief justice of the United States Supreme Court, that's currently Justice Roberts.]